Broke-ass Movie

We bought Brokeback Mountain this morning. Am I the only non-wingnut American who’s not 100% enthralled with this film?

It’s been, what, 37 years since the Stonewall Riots? And we’re still fascinated with two drunken closet cases falling into each other’s butt-holes at the low-rent equivalent of Boy Scout Camp? I guess it’s only cool to be gay if you’re, you know, not gay gay. Like, you fuck chicks and stuff. But you can fuck guys too, if you’re so manly you can’t even open your mouth all the way when you talk. And these dudes were so manly that they discovered a pure Noble Savage’s homosexuality, free from the enervating corruption of those city-slickin’ queers! Argh!!

Whatever.

Also…gay or not, Ennis was a dick to the mother of his daughters, and there’s nothing cute about that. Gay assholes are assholes too. This movie should have been called “Perpetual Teenagers on a Big Gay Adventure”.

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22 Responses to “Broke-ass Movie”

  1. Pinko Punko Says:

    Well the two options are “Priscilla, Queen of the Desert” and “Brokeback Mountain”- up til now there was really only the former, so at least there is some middle ground now for gay cinema that is mainstream to try for besides the exact same point of the SuperFruity pole. And yes, the manly Gay ™ is a construction, but not one that is seen all that much, outside of Scott McLellan, Ken Mehman and Abercrombie ads. So cut the coyboys some slack.

    I had the best rip EVER on AG but I had to sensor myself here.

  2. Adorable Girlfriend Says:

    Bring it, especially since AG wasn’t involved in this post in anyway, Punkass.

  3. Brando Says:

    Pinko, how could you forget the cinematic tour-de-force that was “In and Out”? Tom Sellek! Kevin Kline! Pecking each other on the lips! Oh, the scandal!!!

  4. Chuckles Says:

    From a letter to the editor at my magazine(please don’t tattle):
    “[our reviewer’s] lengthy plot review and then cursory reflection about the film’s message (masculinity has been expanded through the expression of same sex love and violence) is of course valid. To me, however, this film speaks about messy relationships, destructive human urges, and catastrophic failures in compassion that result in utter hopelessness. This film has impacted my practice more than any other film in the past ten years.

    To gay men this film is devastating , especially to those whose lives are broken, or close to it. The movie is blunt, brutal and for audiences not used to having their lives exposed so directly, it packs a mean punch. It is violent. The men in the movie, which is set about 30 years ago, are violenced, as they violence others. My argument is that though this movie exposes blatant external homophobia, its current impact on the audience is the resultant effects of internalized homophobia on gay people.

    Men in my practice have articulated their own fears that their lives are bound to similar conclusions if they continue on destructive self imposed pathways. They see how difficult it is to truly love another, to maintain commitments, and feel supported by society at large.

    When I see this movie and hear these comments I’m struck by the confluence of change within the gay community. With marriage now legalized in Massachusetts (and undoubtedly to be expanded throughout the nation within 10 years), I see men struggling to step out of the negative stereotypes of gay culture. What once was a protective community has become a limiting container. Without a community for support they are on their own.

    A job for clinicians is to help gay men through their trauma, pain, and most important, helping them reduce the internalized homophobia that keeps them from reaching their best selves. By including gays in the marriage (and divorce) conversation we are including them into the fabric which they should belong to as much as non-gay people.”

    I was unsatisfied with thre view as well, but this guy is really on point with it. So many people are just focused with two men kissing that they miss the whole point of the movie.

  5. Adorable Girlfriend Says:

    In and Out was taped near my parent’s weekend house. I felt the need to share that.

    Chuckie, was the letter written by an MD from Boston?

  6. Adorable Girlfriend Says:

    P.S. Res Thomas Publica — we may be offensive here at RoD, OK we ARE offensive here at RoD, but women are not called “chicks”. We are not barnyard animals.

  7. Chuckles Says:

    Nope it was written by an LMHC. Sorry, AG, you don’t know everybody.

    And res was clearly speaking with his manly pants on when he used the term chicks. I was no affronted when he used that term. It isn’t disrespectful if you are using it to refer to women as a whole.

  8. Chuckles Says:

    EAT IT COBAGZ!

    The pictacular evidence is up at Well Rounded Nerds!1!!

  9. madame rouge Says:

    You raise good points, but I would argue that if one views the film as a period piece (“period” referring to Wyoming, 1960s), it holds water a little better.

    The reaction of gay men to this movie has been really interesting. I have a 100% non-scientific theory about it: the older the gay man, the higher the likelihood that he was emotionally affected by it.

    The younger gays?… chances increase that they don’t “get it,” because they likely had a goddamned GLBT group to join in their high school, and took a boy to the prom.

  10. Adorable Girlfriend Says:

    Or the third group like Pink Panther, who took a girl but wanted to take a man to the prom. 🙂

  11. teh l4m3 Says:

    “Well the two options are ‘Priscilla, Queen of the Desert’ and ‘Brokeback Mountain'”

    With all due respect, P-Pu, you can kiss my cloaca.

    It’s all about Hedwig. Hedwig, and Derek Jarman.

  12. norbizness Says:

    Don’t forget Gandalf in “Gods and Monsters.” Gandalf didn’t have no GLBT group to help him out at wizard-prom.

  13. Chuckles Says:

    Gods and Monsters is on my All Time Non-Science Fiction/Fantasy top five list. Right next to Savior(starring Dennis Quaid, surprisingly). Gods and Monsters is amazing. I watched it like four times on opening weekend.

    Ok, so I was a projectionist at the time, but still, I sat there watching it every time.

  14. your judgemental aunt Says:

    I totally agree with you. It was a long movie about two guys that cheat on their wives.

  15. Res Publica Says:

    Gods and Monsters is a great movie.

    A Home at the End of the World also rocked me, although that movie also featured the whole gays-as-tragically-foredoomed worldview that I find so profoundly fucking annoying.

  16. teh l4m3 Says:

    What pathetic homos we. It took Norby to remind us of Gandalf the Gay opposite Brendan Fraser.

  17. madamerouge Says:

    Excellent choice, Norb. Sir Ian McKellen is a powerhouse.

    At the risk of sounding like a bitch, Res, I’d like to comment further. A Home at the End of the World, like Brokeback Mountain, stands up better if you consider the timeframe. Let’s not forget that toward the end of the film, the character of Jonathan was exhibiting AIDS symptoms.

    It’s tough to find a gay movie that doesn’t contain the “gays-as-tragically-foredoomed” theme. For a lot of our history, that has unfortunately been the case (live closeted and married; step out of the closet and get bashed or kicked out of the army; fight tooth & nail for some progress only to have teh AIDS and the Reagan Republicans come along; take protease inhibitors and kick yourself for blowing your viaticals; come out in the late ’90s and get hooked on crystal meth).

    Personally, I would have loved to see a movie about Scott Bakula’s gay character in American Beauty: “normal” nextdoor neighbour type, not sick or dying, hopefully naked a lot in it… I did see The Sum of Us and Billy’s Hollywood Screen Kiss… if memory serves, no overarching gay tragedies there.

    I loved Brokeback Mountain. But this movie may serve both our interests if it provides an impetus for young gay filmmakers to tell stories from their life experiences… experiences that move beyond the triad of closet, AIDS, and bashing.

    [hugs]

  18. midniter Says:

    I’d also recommend A Beautiful Thing.

  19. madamerouge Says:

    Ooh… midniter, you stealthy bah-stid, that’s perfect. I totally forgot about that movie.

    “You’ve got to
    Make your own kind of music
    Sing your own special song
    Make your own kind of music
    E-ven-if-no-bo-dy-else-sings-a-long…”

    la la la!
    perfect.

  20. Pinko Punko Says:

    I was talking about movies that people actually see. G/M was supposed to be awesome. Hedwig was awesome. But it was seen by two people, and outside of its high quality, it gives a Priscilla vibe, it just does, regardless of how much deeper it is.

    Some people hate cheating so much that any movie that has cheating in it is automatically out.

    Perhaps there was some Straightriarchy to blame there?

    Oh, you gotta take tate one before Twisty uses it for blog again heteronormative day.

  21. ricketyfunk Says:

    Several Months late, but if anyone’s reading the archives…

    “The reaction of gay men to this movie has been really interesting. I have a 100% non-scientific theory about it: the older the gay man, the higher the likelihood that he was emotionally affected by it.

    The younger gays?… chances increase that they don’t “get it,” because they likely had a goddamned GLBT group to join in their high school, and took a boy to the prom.”

    I can’t agree more, although… I didn’t have either of those reactions. What got me was the scenery. I lived in Montana for a few years. I even tried to be a part of the on campus LGBT group and decided it sucked hard, and not in a good way.

    I thought the relationship drama of the four lead characters did a good job of showing the side-effects of living a lie. The destructive-ness of doing what is expected out of fear rather than letting what is expected be done out of resigned compliance or just doing what one needs to do, that is, be gay and tell everyone who expects you to be straight to fuck off (silently, without a lot of fanfare.)

    The beauty of living now, as a gay man, is that society has changed (if ever so slightly, and at least for now.) I lived as an openly gay man in Montana and didn’t get shit from no one about it. They kept their opinions to themselves and let me live my life. (Granted, I didn’t go around putting myself in situations that would result in “threatening” a straight man’s sexuality. No sexual advances, no flamboyant displays of gratutious gaydom. I just lived my life as if I was myself. Gay or not, it doesn’t DEFINE me. And that may be why I didn’t find being a part of the LGBT “scene” appealing, as much as I don’t really enjoy going to gay bars where the music sucks and the people who I don’t know generally don’t know when to walk away from a turn-down/rejection when it’s still polite and allows for them to save some face. I almost always have to be rude for them to get the point that I’m not interested in getting to know them intimately.)

    All in all, I didn’t really like the movie. The intermountain west isn’t like that anymore, and it never will be.

    [Begin Rant]

    Far too many jackass rich motherfuckers go out there, buy up land and turn it into their private vacation ranches, which they occupy for one month out of the year. They drive up property value without adding anything to the economy of the area, except for the month that they are there, dining at overpriced surf and turf restaurants, asking for items that are not listed anywhere on the menu. This movie, among other things, encourages more motherfuckers to go and buy up that land because it’s “So Beautiful,” but the ‘Million Dollar View’ isn’t a million dollar view when someone else’s ugly ranch home is sitting atop the next rise.

    [End Rant]

  22. madamerouge Says:

    I love your rant, Rickety. And props for being out in Montana.

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